09/30/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own mystery poster 
How accurate is your memory? Jackie ~*~You are responsible, forever, for what you have tamed. You are responsible for your rose~*~ ~~Antoine de Saint-Exup
09/30/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own mystery poster How accurate is your memory? Jackie ~*~You are responsible, forever, for what you have tamed. You are responsible for your rose~*~ ~~Antoine de Saint-Exup
<gently snipped ::I saw my pdoc this week and she wants me to take xanax once in the ::morning and once in the afternoon for a month to see if we can get ::over this hump and she wants me to start therapy again which I knew I ::should have been all along. :: ::Anyhow I was just wondering if anyone knew of any link between ::hormonal imbalances as far as "female hormones" and panic/anxiety??? Dear Kellie, There’s definitely a link between female hormones and anxiety/depression. Sometimes the week before a period I feel like I’m losing my mind because of the anxiety. Two of the worst setbacks I ever had were hormone-related. The first was when I was pregnant with my first daughter and the second was when my thyroid was messed up. Hormones can trigger or exacerabate anxiety and depression. After a very good friend of mine finished menopause, her anxiety and panic pretty much disappeared. She had been suffering with panic since her early 20s. I hope the xanax works and please do get back into therapy. Hoping you feel better soon. Oh, you may want to read the following book….. "When Words Are Not Enough" by Valerie Raskin <<<<<Book Description One in four women will experience clinical depression, anxiety, or premenstrual depression in her lifetime. The good news is that popular new prescription drugs like Prozac and Xanax bring much needed relief. The bad news is that many physicians and therapists are unaware of common issues for women. As medical treatment for depression and anxiety has become simpler, more and more general practitioners are prescribing antidepressants, often with little background in the nonmedical alternatives or complex mind-body interactions Jackie ~*~Nothing lasts forever, not even troubles~*~ ~~Arnold H. Glasgow — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hello Again! I have read an article that claimed that some people have panic and anxiety because of out of balance hormones. I have always had problems with my monthly cycle and of course my panic is worse when it is during my PMS but over the past few years I’ve noticed it increasingly gets worse and worse. This time I’ve had a COMPLETE week of panic attacks everyday and getting anxious EVERYTIME I get in a vehicle. My normal trigger is driving but only in certain situations but it’s getting worse and worse. I saw my pdoc this week and she wants me to take xanax once in the morning and once in the afternoon for a month to see if we can get over this hump and she wants me to start therapy again which I knew I should have been all along. Anyhow I was just wondering if anyone knew of any link between hormonal imbalances as far as "female hormones" and panic/anxiety??? Thanks Kellie — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
That message that I received from my family growing up that it’s OK to lie. Started with little white lies then medium size lies then on to lies that cover up large emotional and physiological truths. Soon I didn’t know what was true or a lie……boy can that cause allot of anxiety!! Don’t tell your truth, you may hurt someones feelings or worse…. you may confuse them and they’ll get upset with you…..it’s just easier to just lie. It doesn’t hurt anyone…..except maybe the child who never learns to speak their true feelings or ask to have their needs met openly and without fear. I creatively learned to lie my way out of and around every and all situations that had the slightest hint of anxiety. This avoidance behavior allowed me to effectively skip the seventh and eight grades….and never get caught. cc — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? Jackie "I had a stick of CareFree gum, but it didn’t work. I felt pretty good for a while, but as soon as the gum lost its flavor, I was back to pondering my mortality." ~~ Mitch Hedberg
Feel like I told one today. I was really anxious and they gave me my break late (after my disability counselor spoke with management that I must have breaks and lunches on time).. I told them I was disabled and needed meds. -They rushed me to break LOL.. Both true, but I feel as though I lied. I’ve convinced myself that anxiety is not a "real" disability or something. The truth is.. it is .. the truth is.. I needed to dose it. But knowing that if they knew my disability was anxiety and I needed a tranquilizer (benzo).. they wouldn’t think it was one, they’d think I was a pill popper.. sigh. sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? I sometimes just say, I’m having "one of those days". kili I say I am in the menopause hehe Love from Anna
LOL! kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Just the usual like I don’t feel well, one of the kids are sick, etc… smiles, Elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? Jackie "I had a stick of CareFree gum, but it didn’t work. I felt pretty good for a while, but as soon as the gum lost its flavor, I was back to pondering my mortality." ~~ Mitch Hedberg — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? Jackie
I always tell strangers I’m still working in IT. It is a real conversation stopper to say you have panic disorder and have been living on disability for years. — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07:
snip: "What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety- panic?" I’ve told so many "white lies" that I cannot remember which was the biggest. I think I’ve put the finger on my pdoc several times and said that it was she and then he who told me that doing that or going there would not be good for my panic disorder. It’s much easier for me now because I am retired and don’t have to face those dreaded weekend meetings and stand up oral presentations. I get the shudders just thinking about what I went thru. -frizz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? I sometimes just say, I’m having "one of those days". kili
I say I am in the menopause hehe Love from Anna — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic?
I sometimes just say, I’m having "one of those days". kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? Jackie "I had a stick of CareFree gum, but it didn’t work. I felt pretty good for a while, but as soon as the gum lost its flavor, I was back to pondering my mortality."
That message that I received from my family growing up that it’s OK to lie. Started with little white lies then medium size lies then on to lies that cover up large emotional and physiological truths. Soon I didn’t know what was true or a lie……boy can that cause allot of anxiety!! Don’t tell your truth, you may hurt someones feelings or worse…. you may confuse them and they’ll get upset with you…..it’s just easier to just lie. It doesn’t hurt anyone…..except maybe the child who never learns to speak their true feelings or ask to have their needs met openly and without fear. I creatively learned to lie my way out of and around every and all situations that had the slightest hint of anxiety. This avoidance behavior allowed me to effectively skip the seventh and eight grades….and never get caught. cc — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? Jackie "I had a stick of CareFree gum, but it didn’t work. I felt pretty good for a while, but as soon as the gum lost its flavor, I was back to pondering my mortality." ~~ Mitch Hedberg
Feel like I told one today. I was really anxious and they gave me my break late (after my disability counselor spoke with management that I must have breaks and lunches on time).. I told them I was disabled and needed meds. -They rushed me to break LOL.. Both true, but I feel as though I lied. I’ve convinced myself that anxiety is not a "real" disability or something. The truth is.. it is .. the truth is.. I needed to dose it. But knowing that if they knew my disability was anxiety and I needed a tranquilizer (benzo).. they wouldn’t think it was one, they’d think I was a pill popper.. sigh. sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? I sometimes just say, I’m having "one of those days". kili I say I am in the menopause hehe Love from Anna
LOL! kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Just the usual like I don’t feel well, one of the kids are sick, etc… smiles, Elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? Jackie "I had a stick of CareFree gum, but it didn’t work. I felt pretty good for a while, but as soon as the gum lost its flavor, I was back to pondering my mortality." ~~ Mitch Hedberg — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? Jackie
I always tell strangers I’m still working in IT. It is a real conversation stopper to say you have panic disorder and have been living on disability for years. — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07:
snip: "What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety- panic?" I’ve told so many "white lies" that I cannot remember which was the biggest. I think I’ve put the finger on my pdoc several times and said that it was she and then he who told me that doing that or going there would not be good for my panic disorder. It’s much easier for me now because I am retired and don’t have to face those dreaded weekend meetings and stand up oral presentations. I get the shudders just thinking about what I went thru. -frizz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? I sometimes just say, I’m having "one of those days". kili
I say I am in the menopause hehe Love from Anna — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic?
I sometimes just say, I’m having "one of those days". kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
03/20/07: Today’s question is being brought to you by our very own Anna What is the biggest lie you ever told to cover up your anxiety-panic? Jackie "I had a stick of CareFree gum, but it didn’t work. I felt pretty good for a while, but as soon as the gum lost its flavor, I was back to pondering my mortality."
kilikini schreef: When life gives you lemons, you get kiwi. I love kiwi… Philip
Cool! If my husband ever leaves me, you’re first on the list! LOL. :~) kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kili: I’m still praying for you and hoping there is a happy ending to all the suffering you’ve been through with the tumor, surgery, reconstruction, etc. I can’t even imagine how scared I would be in your place. I applaud your ability to use make jokes as you deal with this. The late writer/editor Norman Cousins used humor and laughter to conquer a serious illness that everyone expected he would die from, and wrote about his experience in his book, "Anatomy of an Illness." It became a springboard for new thinking among medical practitioners about the value of holistic treatments that included therapy for the mind as well as for the ailing body. There is a Web site about fighting cancer with laughter: http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/laughter-is-medicine.html I have no idea how good this site is, but it might be interesting for you. Chin up! We are all rooting for you, girl. xxoo Anne
Thanks, Anne. I’m going to check that site out! kili — http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi Kili! Just a pause to let you know many people care about you and I’m one of them. Keep the sense of humor and stay positive! A positive outlook is supposed to have real healing powers. (((((Kili))))) Tony
Thanks, Tony. I’m going one day at a time. I appreciate the support. kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And, get this! How weird is this? The skin that they used from my stomach to cover up my chest, is growing hair!!! Yes, hair!!! It’s short, dark and stubbly. It feels kind of like a kiwi fruit skin. I’m going to have to shave my fake boob! That is weird! Maybe this will make you feel better My oldest daughter was severely scalded on her chest and abdomen when she was 2 years old. The hospital used a special kind of dressing that was made of pig skin. It worked beautifully! About 2-3 years later, my daughter developed hundreds of tiny warts all over her chest and abdomen. The warts were only on the area that was treated with the pig skin. I am positive it had something to do with it. I took her to a dermatologist and the warts disappeared after being treated with salicylic acid. Hang in there, Kili! It will get better. (((((Kili)))))
I’m kind of thinking NAIR? That hair removal cream? I have to wait until the infection clears up where the sutures were, but I’ve got to try something! I almost wish they would have used pig skin on me. At least that’s smooth! Oh, but knowing my luck, I would have gotten the USDA stamp of approval. :~) kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <gently snipped Meanwhile, I’m bummed as all get out. To be honest, folks, I don’t quite know if I’m gonna beat this sucker. I’m trying. Dear Kili, Anyone dealing with a serious illness is bound to feel at one time or another that they won’t make it. With the physical setbacks you’ve had recently, it’s not wonder you are feeling this way. Maybe tomorrow or the next day, you will feel strong again and won’t give up without a good fight. You hang in there, we are going to help you get through this. (((((Kili)))))
God bless you, Jackie (and I’m not really a religious person). I so dearly appreciate your support. kili — http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
::I spoke to my doctor’s office yesterday and they think the hard lump I feel ::in the recontructed material is a large infection. When my husband gets off ::of work today, we’re going to the ER so that I can get antibiotics. ::Ultimately, when I see my doctor on the 14th, they’ll either lance the site ::or I’ll have to have it all cut out. They think the tissue didn’t take, it ::died, and my body is rejecting it in it’s own way. Dear KIli, Good luck at the ER! Hopefully they will help you. Sorry this is happening to you. Feel better soon! (((((Kili))))) .
kilikini schreef: When life gives you lemons, you get kiwi. I love kiwi… Philip
Cool! If my husband ever leaves me, you’re first on the list! LOL. :~) kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kili: I’m still praying for you and hoping there is a happy ending to all the suffering you’ve been through with the tumor, surgery, reconstruction, etc. I can’t even imagine how scared I would be in your place. I applaud your ability to use make jokes as you deal with this. The late writer/editor Norman Cousins used humor and laughter to conquer a serious illness that everyone expected he would die from, and wrote about his experience in his book, "Anatomy of an Illness." It became a springboard for new thinking among medical practitioners about the value of holistic treatments that included therapy for the mind as well as for the ailing body. There is a Web site about fighting cancer with laughter: http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/laughter-is-medicine.html I have no idea how good this site is, but it might be interesting for you. Chin up! We are all rooting for you, girl. xxoo Anne
Thanks, Anne. I’m going to check that site out! kili — http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi Kili! Just a pause to let you know many people care about you and I’m one of them. Keep the sense of humor and stay positive! A positive outlook is supposed to have real healing powers. (((((Kili))))) Tony
Thanks, Tony. I’m going one day at a time. I appreciate the support. kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And, get this! How weird is this? The skin that they used from my stomach to cover up my chest, is growing hair!!! Yes, hair!!! It’s short, dark and stubbly. It feels kind of like a kiwi fruit skin. I’m going to have to shave my fake boob! That is weird! Maybe this will make you feel better My oldest daughter was severely scalded on her chest and abdomen when she was 2 years old. The hospital used a special kind of dressing that was made of pig skin. It worked beautifully! About 2-3 years later, my daughter developed hundreds of tiny warts all over her chest and abdomen. The warts were only on the area that was treated with the pig skin. I am positive it had something to do with it. I took her to a dermatologist and the warts disappeared after being treated with salicylic acid. Hang in there, Kili! It will get better. (((((Kili)))))
I’m kind of thinking NAIR? That hair removal cream? I have to wait until the infection clears up where the sutures were, but I’ve got to try something! I almost wish they would have used pig skin on me. At least that’s smooth! Oh, but knowing my luck, I would have gotten the USDA stamp of approval. :~) kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <gently snipped Meanwhile, I’m bummed as all get out. To be honest, folks, I don’t quite know if I’m gonna beat this sucker. I’m trying. Dear Kili, Anyone dealing with a serious illness is bound to feel at one time or another that they won’t make it. With the physical setbacks you’ve had recently, it’s not wonder you are feeling this way. Maybe tomorrow or the next day, you will feel strong again and won’t give up without a good fight. You hang in there, we are going to help you get through this. (((((Kili)))))
God bless you, Jackie (and I’m not really a religious person). I so dearly appreciate your support. kili — http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
::I spoke to my doctor’s office yesterday and they think the hard lump I feel ::in the recontructed material is a large infection. When my husband gets off ::of work today, we’re going to the ER so that I can get antibiotics. ::Ultimately, when I see my doctor on the 14th, they’ll either lance the site ::or I’ll have to have it all cut out. They think the tissue didn’t take, it ::died, and my body is rejecting it in it’s own way. Dear KIli, Good luck at the ER! Hopefully they will help you. Sorry this is happening to you. Feel better soon! (((((Kili))))) .
Your symptoms sound very similar to mine. I’ve also tried every SSRI on the planet; however, for me they didn’t help the anxiety. The depression got better but the anxiety remained.
I took a quick look at the pharmacological action page and noticed that Lyrica is a derivative of Neurontin. Besically, it supposedly modifies glutamate by opposing it with GABAminergic action. IOW, it’s basically an anti-convulsant mood stabilizer like Neurontin, Lamictal, Depakote, and so forth. Hope it works for both of you. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a 45 y.o male family doctor in Vancouver Canada. I have had anxiety GAD most of my adult life. I have tried everything. As a doc myself, I know all the drugs. I have been on all the SSRIs, they work but too many side effects. I live on Ativan 2-5 mg per day. Or at least I used to. I had been reading on anxiety and they are starting to use a new drug. In Canada it is called Lyrica. Pregabalin is the chem name. Its made by Pfizer and is typically used as a drug for neuropathic pain. Well, I got some samples in my office and as October is usually the start of a long winter of anxiety for me I decided to try it. Started off at 75 mg BID (twice a day) about 2 weeks ago. Almost overnight I felt better. The anxiety was not gone by any means, but went from an 8 to a 2. I now take 0-2mg of ativan a day.
Hi Russ, A friend recently suggested that I contact a clinic with a "new treatment." I phoned the clinic and spoke with the director. The new treatment was a medication. I forget the name, but it acted on serotonin, norepinephrine and dopamine (kind of an antidepressant and antipsychotic hybrid apparently). I shyed away from trying it for two reasons. One, I had a bad experience with an SSRI clinical trial (the med seemed to work fine the first year, but serious problems developed during the second year, after the trial had ended and no would accept my reporting of adverse effects). Two, the long-term effects of new meds are often unrecognized for the first few years of the med’s public usage, so I’m not going to leap into anything until others have used it for a while. I already did my service as a pharma guinea pig. Nonetheless, I know how desperation can drive us to try new things. You seem to be doing well on this med so far and I wish you continued success. Best Wishes, Arthur — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
I had been reading on anxiety and they are starting to use a new drug. In Canada it is called Lyrica. Pregabalin is the chem name. Its made by Pfizer and is typically used as a drug for neuropathic pain. Well, I got some samples in my office and as October is usually the start of a long winter of anxiety for me I decided to try it. Started off at 75 mg BID (twice a day) about 2 weeks ago. Almost overnight I felt better. The anxiety was not gone by any means, but went from an 8 to a 2. I now take 0-2mg of ativan a day.
Thank you for your recommendation. I constantly look at alternative medicines for anxiety/depression. I take Zoloft/Requip for depression and the Requip has taken care of the sexual side effects of the Zoloft. I am very glad that my libido is back. The Requip also relieved the emotional flatness of the Zoloft I have been taking, and has also toned down my tendency to ruminate negatively. I also have noticed a greater sense of well-being and mental balance. Anxiety disorders have not been a problem for me as major depression has been. Residual symptoms have greatly diminished thanks to the Requip. I will look into Lyrica and see if it could help with anxiety as I’m not a great fan of benzos. Does the Lyrica in any way depress you or leave you feeling like a zombie? — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Lyrica for GAD is not off label in Europe as of March 2006. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=40404 Your symptoms sound very similar to mine. I’ve also tried every SSRI on the planet; however, for me they didn’t help the anxiety. The depression got better but the anxiety remained. My anxiety is intertwined with a complicated gut, one that gets tied in knots. One day things wont move and I would give my last dime just to fart, then the next day I can’t stop anything, i.e. IBS. Either way the GAD wears me down, and, of course, any stress makes the cycle all the more vicious. Not being depressed is a good thing, but the stubborn anxiety remains and nearly cripples me, severely hampering my career and personal life. Like you, the winter months are the worst for me. And like you I am starting on Lyrica. Today I start with 150mg, and will be titrating up to 300mg within 2 weeks. I’m hoping for a miracle, like I always do with any new medication. I’m hoping that it helps with both the IBS and the GAD. I have gradually come to see my anxiety as centered in the gut, a lifelong case of butterflies in the stomach. The IBS makes GAD worse; GAD makes IBS worse. At this point I don’t care which came first. Smash the egg, shoot the chicken, either way I’d thank God and repent of my lifelong disgust with the medical establishment Belated as it may be, researches have finally come up with some models to investigate treatments for visceral pain. Most models involve men/women in white coats doing terrible things to rats. Thank you, all you fastidious, dedicated men and women, and thank you to all you heroic rats out there. See http://ajpgi.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/278/5/G670 And, as it turns out, Lyrica (pregabalin) shows promise in helping gut pain; however, this has not been studied in humans. A quote from the above article: "Gabapentin and pregabalin, two selective agonists of the alpha-2-delta subunits of calcium channels, are able to modulate glutamate release at the dorsal horn level in rodents and have been found to be active in visceral pain induced by septic shock, inflammation, colonic glycerol, and stress, at doses similar to those active in many models of somatic and neuropathic pain." The above citation is from the year 2000. Here’s a PubMed citation from 2002 in which they are studying Lyrica’s effect on the same alpha-2-delta pathway in the human neocortex (who knows where they are getting human neocortex? 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&… To my untrained eye, it looks like Lyrica is affecting the human’s excitatory pathways in the same way as it does the rat’s. But will that translate into less pain for humans? Impossible to say at this point. But I am getting very impatient. I want to start living my life at some point, preferably before I reach 40. So I am going to turn myself into a lab rat one more time. If you are interested I’ll let you know if it unties my gut and flushes out those pesky butterflies. P.S. I wont hold it against you that you are a doctor. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a 45 y.o male family doctor in Vancouver Canada. I have had anxiety GAD most of my adult life. I have tried everything. As a doc myself, I know all the drugs. I have been on all the SSRIs, they work but too many side effects. I live on Ativan 2-5 mg per day. Or at least I used to. I had been reading on anxiety and they are starting to use a new drug. In Canada it is called Lyrica. Pregabalin is the chem name. Its made by Pfizer and is typically used as a drug for neuropathic pain. Well, I got some samples in my office and as October is usually the start of a long winter of anxiety for me I decided to try it. Started off at 75 mg BID (twice a day) about 2 weeks ago. Almost overnight I felt better. The anxiety was not gone by any means, but went from an 8 to a 2. I now take 0-2mg of ativan a day. I am not affiliated with any drug company and this is not a hoax. I can understand peoples frustrations with doctors, I am frustrated by the lack of progress in my own profession. It doesnt matter that you may not believe I am an MD, but this is the most exciting thing I have personally encountered to help control my GAD and I thought I would wait a few weeks on it myself and then let you know about it. I have had only minor side effects like some mild stomach upset and some clenching of my jaw (which I do anyway), but no sexual side effects, which I hated about the SSRIs. It is EXPENSIVE. That is a definite down side, but it has helped me get my life back. Like I said the anxiety is still there, but the volume has been turned down considerably. Without sounding like an infomercial, I can tell you that this has helped me immeasurably and I hope that it may help some of you too. I am not selling it, nor like I said above do I have any personal interest in this drug, I just know how painful anxiety is and I hope that it helps some of you. This is a definite off label indication for this medication. It is not by any means widely used for this. I tried it because I HATE October and needed something extra to help with my anxiety and I have access to it as I am a doc myself. I dont come on this board much anymore, so I would suggest you ask your own doctors. They probably wont know about its use. I dont even know if it is available in the US. Get some samples if you can and try it. It may change your life. Russ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
I am a 45 y.o male family doctor in Vancouver Canada. I have had anxiety GAD most of my adult life. I have tried everything. As a doc myself, I know all the drugs. I have been on all the SSRIs, they work but too many side effects. I live on Ativan 2-5 mg per day. Or at least I used to. I had been reading on anxiety and they are starting to use a new drug. In Canada it is called Lyrica. Pregabalin is the chem name. Its made by Pfizer and is typically used as a drug for neuropathic pain. Well, I got some samples in my office and as October is usually the start of a long winter of anxiety for me I decided to try it. Started off at 75 mg BID (twice a day) about 2 weeks ago. Almost overnight I felt better. The anxiety was not gone by any means, but went from an 8 to a 2. I now take 0-2mg of ativan a day. I am not affiliated with any drug company and this is not a hoax. I can understand peoples frustrations with doctors, I am frustrated by the lack of progress in my own profession. It doesnt matter that you may not believe I am an MD, but this is the most exciting thing I have personally encountered to help control my GAD and I thought I would wait a few weeks on it myself and then let you know about it. I have had only minor side effects like some mild stomach upset and some clenching of my jaw (which I do anyway), but no sexual side effects, which I hated about the SSRIs. It is EXPENSIVE. That is a definite down side, but it has helped me get my life back. Like I said the anxiety is still there, but the volume has been turned down considerably. Without sounding like an infomercial, I can tell you that this has helped me immeasurably and I hope that it may help some of you too. I am not selling it, nor like I said above do I have any personal interest in this drug, I just know how painful anxiety is and I hope that it helps some of you. This is a definite off label indication for this medication. It is not by any means widely used for this. I tried it because I HATE October and needed something extra to help with my anxiety and I have access to it as I am a doc myself. I dont come on this board much anymore, so I would suggest you ask your own doctors. They probably wont know about its use. I dont even know if it is available in the US. Get some samples if you can and try it. It may change your life. Russ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
I phoned my pdoc and reported that the neurologist, GP and ENT could not find anything wrong so I guess it’s anxiety (as she has been telling me all along). They pdoc prescribed Lamictin as she said that we’ve tried all the anti-depressants there are and none work for me so a mood stabiliser would be the next step. The pdoc said I don’t have to be concerned about any side effects iro Lamictin.
Lamictal is probably good for a Bipolar/Depressive with high glutamate activity in the brain (mental hyperactivity). Supposedly it increases GABA indirectly and thus opposes glutamate activity. Common symptoms are sedation and dopeyness. I was prescribed Lamictal for depression a few moons ago but didn’t take it. *Too much* GABA in the brain will make you *very* irritable and moody. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi Marie Tx for your reply. May I ask if you have been taking anything else. I haven’t as yet come across anyone who has taken or who is currently taking Lamictal so I am a bit weary to take it. I’ve tried many ADs but have experienced terrible side effects with all. I just wish I could find something that works for me as the Klonopin on its own is not working effectively. Kim
I phoned my pdoc and reported that the neurologist, GP and ENT could not find anything wrong so I guess it’s anxiety (as she has been telling me all along). They pdoc prescribed Lamictin as she said that we’ve tried all the anti-depressants there are and none work for me so a mood stabiliser would be the next step. The pdoc said I don’t have to
be concerned about any side effects iro Lamictin. Lamictal is probably good for a Bipolar/Depressive with high glutamate activity in the brain (mental hyperactivity). Supposedly it increases GABA indirectly and thus opposes glutamate activity. Common symptoms are sedation and dopeyness. I was prescribed Lamictal for depression a few moons ago but didn’t take it. *Too much* GABA in the brain will make you *very* irritable and moody. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Currently I am still taking half of 0.5 mg Klonopin in the am and a quarter of 0.5 in the pm.
That dose is very low. I take 2.0 mg daily and don’t even have Panic Disorder. I used to be lightheaded but mom told me to put my head down while sitting for a minute. Then I would get up slowly. It tok care of the dizziness, if that’s what you mean by lightheadedness. Nevertheless, IMO you are undermedicated with the Klonopin. I have doubt Lamictal will do much of anything for anxiety, as it is normally given to Bipolars who are more on the depressive side. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi Marie May I ask if you have been taking anything else.
My diagnosis leans more on the depression side. I take Zoloft for depression, and it has worked very well. It does nothing for my anxiety disorders (OCD/GAD). Klonopin and Seroquel works for ruminations, but not perfectly. I haven’t as yet come across anyone who has taken or who is currently taking Lamictal so I am a bit weary to take it.
SSRIs work on brain neurotransmitters. Lamictal and Lithium work on the brain circuitry (wiring). Generally speaking, Lithium slows down messages between neurons and Lamictal speeds them up. For most Bipolar depessives Lamictal is activating and speeds their thoughts. However, some claim that their thoughts slow down on Lamictal, so this is a YMMV thing. Lamictal also IIRC promotes production of brain opiods to give a Bipolar a "feel good " effect. It doesn’t mess with serotonin except to block a sereotonin receptor responsible for anxiety. I’ve tried many ADs but have experienced terrible side effects with all. I just wish I could find something that works for me as the Klonopin on its own is not working effectively.
Serotonin may not be an issue behind your anxiety. Do you have Panic Disorder only, or do you also have depression? Do your thoughts race? — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
GKM schreef: Hi Elise I have tried so many ADs and all of them have made me feel absolutely awful. I am not keen on the Lamictin but really don’t know what else to try. I was hoping to get some positive feedback from someone on the NG who has tried it but unfortunately have had no such response.
It’s *Lamictal*. Don’t take it. Reread Margrove’s advice. In case you don’t know behind this nick is an usually gifted pdoc with a wealth of experience with anxiety disorders (including his own) who is also a REBT-therapist of note, a student of Albert Ellis’. He has been a godsend for many of us for years now and we have benefites enormously from his advice. And he’s fun too. Please dn’t disregard his comments. This is really a tricky and most frustrating situation especially since I was meds free in 2004 and panic free until it returned. The funny thing is that Klonopin worked for me for almost 9 years and now it can’t seem to nip the dizziness in the bud or make me feel much better. My pdoc was not keen on trying another benzo – dunno why, her suggestion was a mood stabiliser.
There are a few possibilities: – raise the Klonopin dose – switch to Xanax XR with Xanax IR (*as needed*) – add an antidepressant (IMHO switching to Xanax XR and seeing that you’re not undermedicated on that would be better as it’s supposed to work great for dizziness and does indeed for me) – start CBT (this is recommended regardless of what medication you take) Taking a *mood stabilizer* is nonsensical. Sometimes pdocs start prescvribing all weird kinds of meds like antipsychotics, anticonvulsants or mood stabilizers without having given other more appropriate possibilities a fair chance. There are more than 20 ADs out there and oodles of benzos, you haven’t tried all of these and their possible combos. If your doc doesn’t want to switch you to another benzo he is probably a benzophobe at heart which in itself is reason to go doctor shopping. I would do that if I were you. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Kim, I don’t know anything about Lamictin but wish you much success with it. Lightheadedness was a bothersome thing for me but going on an antidepressant took care of that. Best wishes. smiles, Elise (remove <gently snipped ::I haven’t collected the Lamictin as yet. My hubby is away again on a ::business trip and it is my PMS week and I will see if the lightheadedness ::gets better next week. The lightheadedness is really driving me insane and ::the fact that I cannot find meds to work for me is another huge issue of ::concern. Any feedback on Lamictin would be appreciated as I really need to ::start driving again and get my life back and I feel right now I’m going to ::need some help with meds. Currently I am still taking half of 0.5 mg ::Klon — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi, Kim, I don’t know anything about Lamictin but wish you much success with it. Lightheadedness was a bothersome thing for me but going on an antidepressant took care of that. Best wishes. smiles, Elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (remove <gently snipped ::I haven’t collected the Lamictin as yet. My hubby is away again on a ::business trip and it is my PMS week and I will see if the lightheadedness ::gets better next week. The lightheadedness is really driving me insane and ::the fact that I cannot find meds to work for me is another huge issue of ::concern. Any feedback on Lamictin would be appreciated as I really need to ::start driving again and get my life back and I feel right now I’m going to ::need some help with meds. Currently I am still taking half of 0.5 mg ::Klon
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi Elise I have tried so many ADs and all of them have made me feel absolutely awful. I am not keen on the Lamictin but really don’t know what else to try. I was hoping to get some positive feedback from someone on the NG who has tried it but unfortunately have had no such response. This is really a tricky and most frustrating situation especially since I was meds free in 2004 and panic free until it returned. The funny thing is that Klonopin worked for me for almost 9 years and now it can’t seem to nip the dizziness in the bud or make me feel much better. My pdoc was not keen on trying another benzo – dunno why, her suggestion was a mood stabiliser. Tx so much for your wishes. Kim
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Kim, I don’t know anything about Lamictin but wish you much success with it. Lightheadedness was a bothersome thing for me but going on an antidepressant took care of that. Best wishes. smiles, Elise (remove <gently snipped ::I haven’t collected the Lamictin as yet. My hubby is away again on a ::business trip and it is my PMS week and I will see if the lightheadedness ::gets better next week. The lightheadedness is really driving me insane and ::the fact that I cannot find meds to work for me is another huge issue of ::concern. Any feedback on Lamictin would be appreciated as I really need to ::start driving again and get my life back and I feel right now I’m going to ::need some help with meds. Currently I am still taking half of 0.5 mg ::Klon — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi there Saw the neurologist on Monday and survived both the EEG and consultation. Then neurologist could not find anything wrong except that he thinks I’m dehydrated and need to exercise. When he ran some tests he mentioned that my "points" escalated too much too soon and this indicated dehydration. He further mentioned that as I seem to feel a bit better when I tip toe it’s also my circulation. Well that was Monday and it’s Saturday now and my dizziness has been really bad since Tuesday. I phoned my pdoc and reported that the neurologist, GP and ENT could not find anything wrong so I guess it’s anxiety (as she has been telling me all along). They pdoc prescribed Lamictin
you mean lamactil or lamotragine as she said that we’ve tried all the anti-depressants there are and none work for me so a mood stabiliser would be the next step
this is about the dumbest logic I have ever heard . I mentioned to her that when I increased my Klonopin as per her instructions it did not do anything to alleviate my dizziness so why is the dizziness anxiety related if Klonopin is not working.
klonopin is an anxiolytic drug-this means it can reduce anxiety-short of rendering you unconscious it will not eliminate it completely-I have no idea what effect your dose of klonopin has on you-it may be too low a dose or the wrong benzo for you, or indeed the wrong drug altogether, but using the logic of "we have tried all the antidepressants (which I doubt you have) then this is the only drug left Her reasonsing was that is why we are trying something different. The pdoc said I don’t have to be concerned about any side effects iro Lamictin.
she is friggin wrong I recommend you get another doctor pronto-this drug has a black box warning on it regarding potential fatal allergic reactions that may not show up for months or happen rapidly-it is not benign-if you insist on seeing this doctor then insist on topiramate or gabapentin if she is so friggin set on "mood stabilizers" and ask her for th clinical justification for them to beging with-what is your diagnosis and how did she come to it I haven’t collected the Lamictin as yet. My hubby is away again on a business trip and it is my PMS week and I will see if the lightheadedness gets better next week.
do you breathe from your diaphram or your chest-lay flat on your back with a book on your stomach and see if it moves up and down when you breathe while it rests on your chest or your lower stomach-if you are a thoracic or chest breather you aren’t getting enough oxygen, so you feel dizzy-this is a "habit" it can be unlearned–if you do breathe diaphramatically your dizzy sensations may be from an inner ear virus that inflamed the labrynth-it may take months to clear up–if you take a drug like antivert does it help-ask your doc to rx it if you haven’t tried it-it is a type of antihistamine that may help the dizziness The lightheadedness is really driving me insane and the fact that I cannot find meds to work for me is another huge issue of concern
further to lightheadedness (which is different from being dizzy) it very well may be a form of derealization.-again knowing what your doc knows would be helpful Any feedback on Lamictin would be appreciated as I really need to start driving again and get my life back and I feel right now I’m going to need some help with meds. Currently I am still taking half of 0.5 mg Klonopin in the am and a quarter of 0.5 in the pm. this is a low dose for anyone with moderate to severe anxiety Tx Kim
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
<gently snipped ::I haven’t collected the Lamictin as yet. My hubby is away again on a ::business trip and it is my PMS week and I will see if the lightheadedness ::gets better next week. The lightheadedness is really driving me insane and ::the fact that I cannot find meds to work for me is another huge issue of ::concern. Any feedback on Lamictin would be appreciated as I really need to ::start driving again and get my life back and I feel right now I’m going to ::need some help with meds. Currently I am still taking half of 0.5 mg ::Klon Dear Kim, I am sooooooo happy that nothing serious was found!! That IS really good news. Make sure to drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. I really feel ‘off’ when I don`t drink enough water. PMS is a big trigger for me as well. Keeping a daily journal will allow you to pinpoint ‘dizzy’ triggers. Cognitive behavioral therapy could show you how to challenge your negative thoughts regarding all your triggers. It would also provide you with tools to help you cope better. About Lamictin, if this we ‘me’, I would hold off on taking it. I would give Klonopin another try. You did not give the extra Klonopin enough time to help you. Good luck, Kim! Jackie ~*~My halo is temporarily out of order~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi there Saw the neurologist on Monday and survived both the EEG and consultation. Then neurologist could not find anything wrong except that he thinks I’m dehydrated and need to exercise. When he ran some tests he mentioned that my "points" escalated too much too soon and this indicated dehydration. He further mentioned that as I seem to feel a bit better when I tip toe it’s also my circulation. Well that was Monday and it’s Saturday now and my dizziness has been really bad since Tuesday. I phoned my pdoc and reported that the neurologist, GP and ENT could not find anything wrong so I guess it’s anxiety (as she has been telling me all along). They pdoc prescribed Lamictin as she said that we’ve tried all the anti-depressants there are and none work for me so a mood stabiliser would be the next step. I mentioned to her that when I increased my Klonopin as per her instructions it did not do anything to alleviate my dizziness so why is the dizziness anxiety related if Klonopin is not working. Her reasonsing was that is why we are trying something different. The pdoc said I don’t have to be concerned about any side effects iro Lamictin. I haven’t collected the Lamictin as yet. My hubby is away again on a business trip and it is my PMS week and I will see if the lightheadedness gets better next week. The lightheadedness is really driving me insane and the fact that I cannot find meds to work for me is another huge issue of concern. Any feedback on Lamictin would be appreciated as I really need to start driving again and get my life back and I feel right now I’m going to need some help with meds. Currently I am still taking half of 0.5 mg Klonopin in the am and a quarter of 0.5 in the pm. Tx Kim — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Get your ass to the doctor, NOW!! I mean it Gigglebox. I know how you feel. I have been there and I am sure you have also before but it does get better, huh? I cannot help but feel your insinuation of suicide. Please stop that thinking. You are a wonderful kind person who has so much to give to this world. You have helped me just emailing me and supporting me. Email me if you need to talk but please please get yourself to a pdoc. So much love and many hugs, Vicki
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just want a DAY where I feel normal. JUST ONE F***ING DAY! I’m tired of pretending. Between my chronic pain <which is horrid, since I’m having some MORE neck problems and I’m awaiting a referral for another MRI and the damn anxiety that goes with it…I’m about ready to scream. I’m not sleeping, I’ve lost my appetite, and I’m losing my patience. Let’s throw in some borderline diabetes, OK? My problem too is that I’m keeping this information TO MYSELF to spare others close to me, because I’ve burdened them enough. I don’t need hugs or anybody to pity me…I just need a big old kick in the ass…because do you know what? There are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who have it WAAAAYYYYYY worse than me!! You don’t hear THEM whining like a miserable cow, do you? Thanks for letting me BE that miserable cow. You don’t have to reply and waste newsgroup space. I just needed to bitch and whine and that was enough. Much love, Gigglz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
((((((Gigglz)))))) I don’t see any bitching here, only a woman venting her frustrations. Physical pain, day in and day out are difficult to deal with. Hope you get the MRI soon so you can rid yourself of that extra unneeded anxiety. smiles, Elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just want a DAY where I feel normal. JUST ONE F***ING DAY! I’m tired of pretending. Between my chronic pain <which is horrid, since I’m having some MORE neck problems and I’m awaiting a referral for another MRI and the damn anxiety that goes with it…I’m about ready to scream. I’m not sleeping, I’ve lost my appetite, and I’m losing my patience. Let’s throw in some borderline diabetes, OK? My problem too is that I’m keeping this information TO MYSELF to spare others close to me, because I’ve burdened them enough. I don’t need hugs or anybody to pity me…I just need a big old kick in the ass…because do you know what? There are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who have it WAAAAYYYYYY worse than me!! You don’t hear THEM whining like a miserable cow, do you? Thanks for letting me BE that miserable cow. You don’t have to reply and waste newsgroup space. I just needed to bitch and whine and that was enough. Much love, Gigglz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just want a DAY where I feel normal. JUST ONE F***ING DAY! I’m tired of pretending. Between my chronic pain <which is horrid, since I’m having some MORE neck problems and I’m awaiting a referral for another MRI and the damn anxiety that goes with it…I’m about ready to scream. I’m not sleeping, I’ve lost my appetite, and I’m losing my patience. Let’s throw in some borderline diabetes, OK? My problem too is that I’m keeping this information TO MYSELF to spare others close to me, because I’ve burdened them enough. I don’t need hugs or anybody to pity me…I just need a big old kick in the ass…because do you know what? There are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who have it WAAAAYYYYYY worse than me!! You don’t hear THEM whining like a miserable cow, do you? Thanks for letting me BE that miserable cow. You don’t have to reply and waste newsgroup space. I just needed to bitch and whine and that was enough. Much love, Gigglz
Giggz, at what point would it be "okay" by you to complain? When the festering boils appear? pain is pain and it’s all bad – and just because there are people worse off than you doesn’t take away your right to yell help. I’m sorry you’re in such a state. Good thing is .. everything here is transitory. It will pass, not that that helps you NOW..but it will sure as hell help you when it happens. Pain’s anxiety provoking, and hormones made me about as crazy as I’ve ever been. I even wanted to hurt people when I went off OC’s LOL. I really did. Hurt them LOL. Like.. attack. And for me to say that was about as crazy as I ever got, that is A BIG STATEMENT. Rant away. Me thinks you kept silent too long. People that do that – those are the ones on TV who go off and do awful things and all the neighbors say "Oh, he was a private fellow, always kept to himself." Maybe the kept to himself thing is a key clue. let it out and type it in all caps and keep doing it til it lifts some. Love you, Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just want a DAY where I feel normal. JUST ONE F***ING DAY! I’m tired of pretending. Between my chronic pain <which is horrid, since I’m having some MORE neck problems and I’m awaiting a referral for another MRI and the damn anxiety that goes with it…I’m about ready to scream. I’m not sleeping, I’ve lost my appetite, and I’m losing my patience. Let’s throw in some borderline diabetes, OK? My problem too is that I’m keeping this information TO MYSELF to spare others close to me, because I’ve burdened them enough. I don’t need hugs or anybody to pity me…I just need a big old kick in the ass…because do you know what? There are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who have it WAAAAYYYYYY worse than me!! You don’t hear THEM whining like a miserable cow, do you? Thanks for letting me BE that miserable cow. You don’t have to reply and waste newsgroup space. I just needed to bitch and whine and that was enough. Much love, Gigglz Giggz, at what point would it be "okay" by you to complain? When the festering boils appear? pain is pain and it’s all bad – and just because there are people worse off than you doesn’t take away your right to yell help. I’m sorry you’re in such a state. Good thing is .. everything here is transitory. It will pass, not that that helps you NOW..but it will sure as hell help you when it happens. Pain’s anxiety provoking, and hormones made me about as crazy as I’ve ever been. I even wanted to hurt people when I went off OC’s LOL. I really did. Hurt them LOL. Like.. attack. And for me to say that was about as crazy as I ever got, that is A BIG STATEMENT. Rant away. Me thinks you kept silent too long. People that do that – those are the ones on TV who go off and do awful things and all the neighbors say "Oh, he was a private fellow, always kept to himself." Maybe the kept to himself thing is a key clue. let it out and type it in all caps and keep doing it til it lifts some. Love you, Sally You crack me up, Sally I can honestly say…lately I’ve wanted to hurt a LOT of people! Seems everywhere I go. Grocery store IDIOTS, IDIOTS on the road when I’m driving, IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS! Where did they come from? Have there always been so many fucking IDIOTS around and I just wasn’t seeing them? Did I have rose-colored glasses on? I know I would NEVER hurt anybody, but maybe just a nice SLAP to one of those IDIOTS would sure help me out a bit <evil grins. Patience = Zero Yup, I’m feeling crazy. I do need to bitch more. There should be a horMOAN bitch group alone. I know there’s one for pain, and we won’t even GO there. And all these things bring on anxiety, huh? LORDY! Good damn thing I don’t have "festering boils"! hehe Love you 2, Gigglz
Giggz, When I was going through that, some woman was pleading temporary insanity due to PMS, and I TOTALLY understood where that lady was coming from (this was late ’80’s).. Hey..just TELL THEM they are fucking idiots. Just voice it once, your concience will kick in, you’ll have vented, and you’ll be cured. I can only speak for the way I’d react if I did that – hey, I was dangerous during that point, and me and dangerous…that’s not usually two words that go together. But hormones can make you..well, if that’s not insane, I guess I don’t know what it is, and of all people I think I speak with authority. The pain thing. You know, Albert Ellis even admits that pain is a tough one to deal with. It’s not impossible – but constant physical pain wears you down emotionally. Is there a pain clinic in your area you could get a referral to? I’m not one to push that kind of thing – pain pills, but they have a PLACE. Doctors are starting to realize that..and could be something non addictive would work. I’d try to get something for that, or at least try to temporarily. Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Behave..or don’t. Don’t might feel better than behaving. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just want a DAY where I feel normal. JUST ONE F***ING DAY! I’m tired of pretending. Between my chronic pain <which is horrid, since I’m having some MORE neck problems and I’m awaiting a referral for another MRI and the damn anxiety that goes with it…I’m about ready to scream. I’m not sleeping, I’ve lost my appetite, and I’m losing my patience. Let’s throw in some borderline diabetes, OK? My problem too is that I’m keeping this information TO MYSELF to spare others close to me, because I’ve burdened them enough. I don’t need hugs or anybody to pity me…I just need a big old kick in the ass…because do you know what? There are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who have it WAAAAYYYYYY worse than me!! You don’t hear THEM whining like a miserable cow, do you? Thanks for letting me BE that miserable cow. You don’t have to reply and waste newsgroup space. I just needed to bitch and whine and that was enough. Much love, Gigglz
Giggz.. I had a thought. You need to ask your doctor, because you are on so many other things.. But the hormonal stuff. Have you tried the Midol PMS stuff? I used to use the generic kind – it was Rite Aid’s brand. It was actually better than the Midol stuff. There was some sort of calming agent in it. It really did help me some with my uh.. attitude. Actually the sight of that bottle appearing on the bathroom counter once a month struck fear in the hearts of my sons when they saw it, LOL. They knew it was probably a good idea to tread lightly when that bottle showed up. Be sure and ask first, it couldn’t hurt to see if it takes the edge off any – it worked for me, but this was before I developed an anxiety disorder, still.. can’t hurt to try it unless the doctor says no. Love, Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
I just have to say this is the funniest thread about pain I’ve ever read. I hope you get all the relief you need, Gigggggzzzzzzzzzzz. Keep laughing! Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
I was the bitch with wheels!
Man, LOL. You’re just like my mom! Except my mom isn’t quite so vocal. She’s more like, "Excuse me. EXCUSE ME." That sort of thing. You just smashed the cart and said, "Don’t go there." Good stuff. Make those shoppers shop right! Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedberg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
They’d have to put a pole in my back.
That would suck. Would it have to be someone from Poland, or could you have a Czech in your back, as well? Would they have to send it to you? Then they could tell you, "The Czech’s in the mail." They did tell me though, if I started losing control of my bladder and bowels, they’d HAVE TO.
Oh, so now you have to sit on the can with a pole in your back? That’s horrible, Gigglyz. I would just opt for the morphine and sit in bed all day. Or something. Of course, I would do that anyway, if they let me. That’s probably why morphine isn’t available over the counter. Everyone would just sit in bed and chill out. Where am I going with this? I don’t know. I’m sorry you’re in such pain. That’s really horrible. I hope they don’t have to put a big pole in your back, or even a thin pole. Even if it allowed you to do neat tricks, like flex your tailbone and flip over. Man, I’m terrible at giving support. 
Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedberg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
snippy snippy like giggz.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, You’re pretty hysterical from a distance, but I’m not going to any stores you are headed for, LOL. Once, when I was like that, I went to check out in a grocery store..Now understand this. I used to WORK at a grocery store, and USUALLY have lots of compassion for those people. It’s hard work, it does not pay well, and people are mean to you all day long and you have to put a frozen grin on your face anyway.. so like the last person I would be rude to is a grocery store employee – HOWEVER.. I put alllllllllllllllllll my stuff on the conveyor belt..and it was a lot of stuff. Stood there a few minutes, then the cashier said, "I’m sorry ma’am, but this line is closed." Uh… I just started throwing my stuff in my cart with great ..vigor.. including a 24 case of pop that broke open. I threw it hard enough to bust a can, and pop came squirting out everywhere – over my groceries. over me, the floor. I was a complete MAD woman.. and ..I know nobody knows anybody on line..but that’s about as far from "me" … oh man. My reaction freaked ME out. I dislike my own anger and that was scary. I didn’t even know I could do something like that. I did come to my senses and explained what I was going through to the cashier… apologized my ass out of the door and that scene still scares me when I think about it.. but it was all hormones. All of it. That’s no way me. I do NOT look forward to menopause. If I act like THAT, I’m just moving to the Antarctic or something. I can’t be around anyone if I’m gonna be like that. ROFL!!! Holy shit, woman! Wish I had THIS on video tape The pain thing. I don’t know. Hypnosis? At this point, I’d try alternative stuff. Did that, too Anything. I’m soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry about your back. I can’t imagine. I have known people, had people in my family with terrible back problems. One doc I worked for had part of his spine fused, but you can’t have it ALL fused..your problem sounds a lot more wide spread than one area. Yup, too wide spread for any surgeries. They’d have to put a pole in my back. They did tell me though, if I started losing control of my bladder and bowels, they’d HAVE TO. Comforting, huh? NOT! Man, I don’t know what to say. I wish I could take some of your pain and help you carry it. I’m just so sorry. My aunt..she passed away in Feb. from lung cancer, but it had metasticized to nerves in her back and hip. She was on 13 different meds FOR COMFORT. One was Morphine and a codeine.. and tons of things I never even heard of.. Deb, I’m just sorry. I’ll say a quick prayer for you. Don’t know what else there is. Take care. Sally Not much to say, but thanks for just letting me know it’s OK to bitch. So sorry about your aunt That’s what my Dad died of in 1990. Awful, awful way to die. You’ve done more than many would, Sally…and I thank you for it! Good thing we don’t live close by…the grocery stores wouldn’t be a safe place! LOLOLOL Hugs, Giggz
Hey.. you take the aisles, I’ll handle the cashiers. We’ll fix those people in a way they’ll talk about for years (and grocery store employees do that too..there are legends in grocery stores about customers like us – oral histories passed down to every new generation) Don’t know. Don’t know. I have a high threshold of pain, but when one of my teeth became abscessed.. well, that was worse than back labor and childbirth, I promise, way worse. I’d go for the pole. I guess. Don’t take MY advice.. I’m not in your position. Just thinking what I would have done when that abscessed tooth happened .. I was ready to find my pliers when that happened.. couldn’t take that level of pain. I thought I’d pass out before the dentist wrote my prescriptions, I was all woozy and ready to faint. Gigglz.. whatever happens you got us. Don’t forget that. It’s horrible to be trapped inside a body that is working against you. Maybe you could learn to leave your body, LOL. I’m halfway kidding, I don’t think people can do that, but I dated a guy once that swore he could. Whatever. try it, can’t hurt. Just don’t leave it for good!! (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((I am so sorry)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey..just TELL THEM they are fucking idiots. Just voice it once, your concience will kick in, you’ll have vented, and you’ll be cured. I can only speak for the way I’d react if I did that – hey, I was dangerous during that point, and me and dangerous…that’s not usually two words that go together. But hormones can make you..well, if that’s not insane, I guess I don’t know what it is, and of all people I think I speak with authority. This makes sense. I DO have to say that I’ve become quite vocal (not like THAT was ever really a problem for me The other day I went to the grocery store just to get a few things. IDIOTS! IDIOTS EVERYWHERE IN THERE. These MORONS park their carts right in the middle of the aisle and then walk around looking for things! HELLO?! So I BASHED this woman’s cart out of the way. Instead of simply moving it, I bashed it out of the way. She came strutting down the aisle and huffed at me. That’s when I called her an idiot…a CLUELESS idiot to be exact. I also told her not to ‘go there’ with me, either. I have a feeling the look on my face was enough to scare her off. :-) Mind you, this was at least the fourth person who had done this in just a matter of minutes! And I won’t even tell you what I said to the woman who brought in FIVE kids who continued to run up and down the aisles screaming and knocking food off the shelves. I did, however, pick up a fly swatter and carry it around with me just in case I was the bitch with wheels! The pain thing. You know, Albert Ellis even admits that pain is a tough one to deal with. It’s not impossible – but constant physical pain wears you down emotionally. Is there a pain clinic in your area you could get a referral to? I’m not one to push that kind of thing – pain pills, but they have a PLACE. Doctors are starting to realize that..and could be something non addictive would work. I’d try to get something for that, or at least try to temporarily. I’ve had a pain clinic for years. I’ve had many epidurals. I cannot take any pain medication because of severe reactions. I use a TENS Unit and ice packs. I am able to take muscle relaxers, which help to a point. I now take a medication called Topamax which helps with nerve pain…but it doesn’t help with any of the ‘other’ pain. But…I’ll take any relief I can get! I have seven disc herniations, severe degeneration, and a compressed spinal cord (spinal stenosis)…so the muscles around the spine go into spasm to try to ‘protect’ the spine. It’s a normal reaction. My nerve roots in some areas are also compressed. I also have Fibromyalgia. Acupuncture helps, but it doesn’t last. Chiropractors won’t touch me (rightfully so), and I’ve had every kind of physical therapy there is. So, I just punt Yup, it does wear you down emotionally…no question about that! Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Behave..or don’t. Don’t might feel better than behaving. Sally I won’t, and thank you for your firsthand knowledge! Love, Giggz
Well, You’re pretty hysterical from a distance, but I’m not going to any stores you are headed for, LOL. Once, when I was like that, I went to check out in a grocery store..Now understand this. I used to WORK at a grocery store, and USUALLY have lots of compassion for those people. It’s hard work, it does not pay well, and people are mean to you all day long and you have to put a frozen grin on your face anyway.. so like the last person I would be rude to is a grocery store employee – HOWEVER.. I put alllllllllllllllllll my stuff on the conveyor belt..and it was a lot of stuff. Stood there a few minutes, then the cashier said, "I’m sorry ma’am, but this line is closed." Uh… I just started throwing my stuff in my cart with great ..vigor.. including a 24 case of pop that broke open. I threw it hard enough to bust a can, and pop came squirting out everywhere – over my groceries. over me, the floor. I was a complete MAD woman.. and ..I know nobody knows anybody on line..but that’s about as far from "me" … oh man. My reaction freaked ME out. I dislike my own anger and that was scary. I didn’t even know I could do something like that. I did come to my senses and explained what I was going through to the cashier… apologized my ass out of the door and that scene still scares me when I think about it.. but it was all hormones. All of it. That’s no way me. I do NOT look forward to menopause. If I act like THAT, I’m just moving to the Antarctic or something. I can’t be around anyone if I’m gonna be like that. The pain thing. I don’t know. Hypnosis? At this point, I’d try alternative stuff. Anything. I’m soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry about your back. I can’t imagine. I have known people, had people in my family with terrible back problems. One doc I worked for had part of his spine fused, but you can’t have it ALL fused..your problem sounds a lot more wide spread than one area. Man, I don’t know what to say. I wish I could take some of your pain and help you carry it. I’m just so sorry. My aunt..she passed away in Feb. from lung cancer, but it had metasticized to nerves in her back and hip. She was on 13 different meds FOR COMFORT. One was Morphine and a codeine.. and tons of things I never even heard of.. Deb, I’m just sorry. I’ll say a quick prayer for you. Don’t know what else there is. Take care. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
I just want a DAY where I feel normal. JUST ONE F***ING DAY!
((((((Sister Gigz)))))) Bro Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just want a DAY where I feel normal. JUST ONE F***ING DAY! I’m tired of pretending. Between my chronic pain <which is horrid, since I’m having some MORE neck problems and I’m awaiting a referral for another MRI and the damn anxiety that goes with it…I’m about ready to scream. I’m not sleeping, I’ve lost my appetite, and I’m losing my patience. Let’s throw in some borderline diabetes, OK? My problem too is that I’m keeping this information TO MYSELF to spare others close to me, because I’ve burdened them enough. I don’t need hugs or anybody to pity me…I just need a big old kick in the ass…because do you know what? There are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who have it WAAAAYYYYYY worse than me!! You don’t hear THEM whining like a miserable cow, do you? Thanks for letting me BE that miserable cow. You don’t have to reply and waste newsgroup space. I just needed to bitch and whine and that was enough.
Dearest Giggz, I wish I could buy you an airline ticket for you to fly here. I would then: 1. Make you have a seat in my new Lazy Boy recliner. 2. I’d put on Bruce Springsteen. 3. I’d make you a bowl of cereal. (You know me!) 4. I’d give you a complete pedicure including a foot massage w/herbal body oils. 5. I’d paint your toes any color you want…. they don’t have to be pink!! 6. I’d sit down on the sofa and ask you "HOW IS DOO?" 7. I’d let you get it out. Talk away. Total gab-fest!! 8. I’d refill your soda cup 1,000 times if you wanted. 9. I’d listen to you some more. 10. And whether you want it or not…. I would throw my arms around you and hold you tight!! xxoo!!!!!! —